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i was pretty struck by some language that john mccain used in reference to general petraeus about whom republicans could say nothing bad for years. he was going to have to come up to capitol hill. i think it was next week, and he was going to testify behind closed doors about what happened in benghazi. so this was really probably the most politically uncomfortable leaving aside the stuff with the affair, just on the benghazi question, the most politically uncomfortable moment the guy has had since he reached the nashl stage. it had to be a hard time for him. where does he stand and fit in with things? he's been leading the agency into much deeper involvement in drone strikes and they're counterterror war. he's a goo who championed counterinsurgency and almost nation building representing towards the targets, military style attacks. someone else will come in and pick up the ball in the cia. >> thanks so much. >> thank you. >>> let's go to msnbc senior political analyst mark halpern if for more. mark, what are you hearing right now? >> well, to echo what michael said, there's lots we don
i was pretty struck by some language that john mccain used in reference to general petraeus about whom republicans could say nothing bad for years. he was going to have to come up to capitol hill. i think it was next week, and he was going to testify behind closed doors about what happened in benghazi. so this was really probably the most politically uncomfortable leaving aside the stuff with the affair, just on the benghazi question, the most politically uncomfortable moment the guy has had...
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john mccain in 2001 called for closing the gun show loophole. john mccain in 2001 was pushing for a patient's bill of rights. in 2001 he was flirting with abandoning the republican party and running as an independent in 2004 or even switching to the democratic party. that was john mccain exacting his version on veef revenge fro beating him in 2000. this is a grouchy guy that came back to the senate to use that seat because of sour grapes. i'm just sick of it. >> for many of us, this is not a political issue, and for many of us this is not revenge. there are legitimate questions whether you believe it or not, and there is some evidence that things aren't quite on the up and up. we're getting to the bottom of it. straight ahead, the stock markets respond to the talks at the white house today. in the guest spot a top money manager who oversees billions tells us what he's watching for. gecko (clearing throat) thank you, mr. speaker, uh, members of congress. in celebration of over 75 years of our government employees insurance company, or geico...as
john mccain in 2001 called for closing the gun show loophole. john mccain in 2001 was pushing for a patient's bill of rights. in 2001 he was flirting with abandoning the republican party and running as an independent in 2004 or even switching to the democratic party. that was john mccain exacting his version on veef revenge fro beating him in 2000. this is a grouchy guy that came back to the senate to use that seat because of sour grapes. i'm just sick of it. >> for many of us, this is...
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she wiggled his hips at him and got john the baptist's head on a platter. >> it's not fair. >> women cheat as well. this is not to excuse female behavior, but you guys are so easy. it's amazing. >> when do you see a powerful woman gain power and lose it on a sex scandal? when does that happen? >> when is the last time we had a female senator, congresswoman derailed by a sex scandal? >> is it because women are so seldom in power, once they get there they work extra hard to keep it? >> there's too busy. >> busy? >> there's jerngender norms tha along with it, too. women are attracted to power. women don't respond that same way in power. >> neve so much to lose. >> i notice steve has been pretty quiet over there. >> apologize for yourself, steve. >> look at the scrutiny we're applying to the great failing of david petraeus. look, i get the issue here. if you're a cia director. the agent is sdplised so the agency has to go to that. i understand that. i also say, he's getting more scrutiny over this, over this personal failure, a failure in his personal life than over any decision he's mad
she wiggled his hips at him and got john the baptist's head on a platter. >> it's not fair. >> women cheat as well. this is not to excuse female behavior, but you guys are so easy. it's amazing. >> when do you see a powerful woman gain power and lose it on a sex scandal? when does that happen? >> when is the last time we had a female senator, congresswoman derailed by a sex scandal? >> is it because women are so seldom in power, once they get there they work extra...
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i think you heard john boehner say that already. we've had votes in the senate where we've actually gotten rid of tax credits. i think that's a given. and i think the vast majority of americans agree with that. the question is how do you do that and how do you allow taxes to rise at the same time you fix the real problem? and the real problem is uncontrolled entitlement spending and a government that has grown massively. not just under this administration, under republican administration. >> let me turn to senator schumer on this point. >> so you have to approach both sides of it. >> let me turn to senator schumer. i'm going to ask you the same question. if the mandate is compromised, what do democrats have to be prepared to accept as a painful outcome in order to achieve compromise? >> well, i agree with you, the mandate is compromise. that's why we have a divided house and senate. and i think if the house stands for anything it's cut government spending, as tom coburn said, and i think we're going to have to do more of it. we hear
i think you heard john boehner say that already. we've had votes in the senate where we've actually gotten rid of tax credits. i think that's a given. and i think the vast majority of americans agree with that. the question is how do you do that and how do you allow taxes to rise at the same time you fix the real problem? and the real problem is uncontrolled entitlement spending and a government that has grown massively. not just under this administration, under republican administration....
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. >> john, the relationship between the president and general petraeus has been portrayed into its early formation as being tense and difficult but actually of late it's become much more mutually supportive and, indeed, in general petraeus' letter of resignation he says of the president thank you for your extraordinary service to our country. clearly the relationship between the two had improved. indeed, none of us had expected his position in the cabinet to change, did we? >> not at all. if you turn the clock back to 2009, there was real concern among the political people in the white house that he was going to run for president on the republican party ticket. it sounds a little out there now, but these were, you know, top aides to the president who worried about that. not that petraeus was planning to do so, but they saw him as a potential political threat. that's how popular he was. that's how much stature he had after the iraq surge, and so there was some real distrust there initially. not necessarily from the president personally but from the president's team. then over time when th
. >> john, the relationship between the president and general petraeus has been portrayed into its early formation as being tense and difficult but actually of late it's become much more mutually supportive and, indeed, in general petraeus' letter of resignation he says of the president thank you for your extraordinary service to our country. clearly the relationship between the two had improved. indeed, none of us had expected his position in the cabinet to change, did we? >> not...
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julian, this is what house speaker john boehner told politico the day before the election about whether president obama has a mandate on this issue. listen, our majority is going to get re-elected, we'll have as much of a mandate as he will to not raise taxes. what do you say to mr. boehner and his supposed mandate right now? >> well, i think that he said that the election would be a mandate, it was, and he lost. and i think that the important point about the crystal comment is that there's now a wedge in the republican party that the president needs to exploit. there's a wedge between the realist wing and the kind of fa fantasy, childish wing. the realist wing understands the president has a mandate. democrats won the presidency and the senate. we won a majority -- we won the popular vote if you add up the house races as well. look, i think it's in both parties' interest to avoid the fiscal cliff. neither of them want it for a whole host of reasons, including it will be damaging to the economy. we learned recently that president obama in august of 2011 was kind of ready to do a nixon g
julian, this is what house speaker john boehner told politico the day before the election about whether president obama has a mandate on this issue. listen, our majority is going to get re-elected, we'll have as much of a mandate as he will to not raise taxes. what do you say to mr. boehner and his supposed mandate right now? >> well, i think that he said that the election would be a mandate, it was, and he lost. and i think that the important point about the crystal comment is that...
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officials say the investigation was triggered in may when general john allen received an e-mail from an account called kelly patrol. sources close to kelley warned the zwroen stay away from her, she could ruin him. general allen say pim close to jill kelley forwarded it to her on the account she shares with her husband scott thinking she sent it as a joke. sources say she told general allen she did not send it but was concerned she was being stalked or electronically hacked because the e-mail referred to a meeting that she and allen scheduled in washington for the following week. in june people close to kelley say she and her husband received four different embarrass from different accounts saying jill she is up to no good, asking her husband, do you know what your wife is up to when she has dinner with general petraeus. she turned over all the e-mails to an fib agent she knew, never realizing the impact they would have. people close to the kelleys say that she never had an affair to general allen and they found no evidence to the contrary. but there was enough inappropriate language
officials say the investigation was triggered in may when general john allen received an e-mail from an account called kelly patrol. sources close to kelley warned the zwroen stay away from her, she could ruin him. general allen say pim close to jill kelley forwarded it to her on the account she shares with her husband scott thinking she sent it as a joke. sources say she told general allen she did not send it but was concerned she was being stalked or electronically hacked because the e-mail...
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will john kerry now go to the pentagon? can susan rice be confirmed as secretary of state? and will nancy pelosi run for leader again? and what a welcome to washington the new class of congress arriving just in time for a classic d.c. scandal. and a different fall from grace, jon stewart, crowns himself the worst journalist in the world. >> anyone out there who thought i may have actual journalists instincts i give you a snippet of my interview. >> he loves serving, to be in the arena. i thought i was going to test him, he tested me, crushed his pelvis. he wanted to help me with the project. he can turn water into bottled water. >> the whole time i was staring at how defined her arms were. [ inaudible ]. i am the worst jurmist in the world. for god's sake the title of her book was "all in." she might as well -- >> good day. i'm andrea mitchell live in washington. we begin with the broadening and complicated scope of the petraeus investigation that has now ensnared his successor, commander of all forces in afghanistan, general john allen. joining me with their latest reporti
will john kerry now go to the pentagon? can susan rice be confirmed as secretary of state? and will nancy pelosi run for leader again? and what a welcome to washington the new class of congress arriving just in time for a classic d.c. scandal. and a different fall from grace, jon stewart, crowns himself the worst journalist in the world. >> anyone out there who thought i may have actual journalists instincts i give you a snippet of my interview. >> he loves serving, to be in the...
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. >> that confirmation process has been put on hold for general john allen. they're speeding up the confirmation process for his replacement in afghanistan. we're awaiting of course for the white house to respond on camera. i can tell you that the briefing will likely focus on exclusively on this issue the fallout from general petraeus and now general john allen. white house released this statement in the early hours of this morning, we havegraphic of it. it says, quote at the question of the secretary of defense, the president has put on hold his nomination of general allen as saceur pending the investigation of john allen. that's coming from tommy vietor. this is coming the days after president obama won re-election. certainly not how the administration envisioned the first few days of the new term. they are certainly stunned by some of these developments and trying to stay focused on the fiscal cliff, that's something that's pending and potentially could impact all americans, however, this is something they'll have to deal with, president obama is set to h
. >> that confirmation process has been put on hold for general john allen. they're speeding up the confirmation process for his replacement in afghanistan. we're awaiting of course for the white house to respond on camera. i can tell you that the briefing will likely focus on exclusively on this issue the fallout from general petraeus and now general john allen. white house released this statement in the early hours of this morning, we havegraphic of it. it says, quote at the question of...
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there's been a lot of talk where john kerry is going to go. whether he would be secretary of state or defense. there's this question about whether susan rice might be elevated to secretary of state. the republicans, of course, tried to turn it into a national scandal that she commented after the benghazi attack and said that at that point best intelligence indicated it might have something to do with that protest about the film. the intelligence community later changed its mind saying they don't think it's related. the republicans have tried to hang her out to dry on that subject. do you think that's over, or if she gets the secretary of state nomination, it's a real hurdle for her? >> i don't think it's a real hurdle if she gets it. frankly, i don't think republicans want to go up against a very distinguished african-american woman in public life with no grounds whatsoever. getting back to kerry, kerry, who actually did serve, could be and has been in the past a great voice for what you're talking about for taking care of our military, taking
there's been a lot of talk where john kerry is going to go. whether he would be secretary of state or defense. there's this question about whether susan rice might be elevated to secretary of state. the republicans, of course, tried to turn it into a national scandal that she commented after the benghazi attack and said that at that point best intelligence indicated it might have something to do with that protest about the film. the intelligence community later changed its mind saying they...
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can john boehner match him in any of those departments? >> -- he said i'm open to new revenue. he didn't say whatever -- eliminating deductions -- it's not. you have to give boehner credit. he said new revenue. >> the president goes to sleep tonight he's thinking, i won. must be a tremendous relief on his part. then he's thinking down the road, because he is thinking of the future, he's going, wait a minute, i got two big risks. one, i can't defend my philosophy which my base will hate and i will hate myself for it. michelle will hate me for it. and we need more money to do more things. the other fear is i'm going off the fiscal cliff, meaning i tried so hard to get my way that we screwed it up with the republicans like we did last august and nothing gets done and the economy tanks again for a second recession, and i'm going down in history as a double failure. >> he can't let that happen. >> at some point he has to pull back from the paul krugmans of the world and the people on the far left, not far left but left, and say i'm president, you're a columnist. >> right. he has --
can john boehner match him in any of those departments? >> -- he said i'm open to new revenue. he didn't say whatever -- eliminating deductions -- it's not. you have to give boehner credit. he said new revenue. >> the president goes to sleep tonight he's thinking, i won. must be a tremendous relief on his part. then he's thinking down the road, because he is thinking of the future, he's going, wait a minute, i got two big risks. one, i can't defend my philosophy which my base will...
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as well as even john mccain when he lost in 2008. when you often lose people are looking forward to the next thing. >> this one seems like a real complete discard. kerry and mccain had a role in the senate and at least foreign policy expertise. this says please don't talk to us again. mark murray, thanks for being here. up next live to gaza. plus, what really happens if we go over the fiscal cliff. we have two of the smartest guys in washington to game out the cliff what ifs. but first a lackook ahead at th president's schedule. big meeting at 10:15 a.m. how i wish i could be a fly on the wall there. but when i was in an accident... i was worried the health care system spoke a language all its own with unitedhealthcare, i got help that fit my life. so i never missed a beat. that's health in numbers. unitedhealthcare. until i had the shingles. i have never encountered such a burning sensation... it was like a red rash. like somebody had set a bag of hot charcoal on my neck. i had no idea it came from chickenpox. it's something you nev
as well as even john mccain when he lost in 2008. when you often lose people are looking forward to the next thing. >> this one seems like a real complete discard. kerry and mccain had a role in the senate and at least foreign policy expertise. this says please don't talk to us again. mark murray, thanks for being here. up next live to gaza. plus, what really happens if we go over the fiscal cliff. we have two of the smartest guys in washington to game out the cliff what ifs. but first a...
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john kerry has long, i think, wanted to be secretary of state. and that's not a secret in washington. and he is many people believe superbly qualified. by my reporting, some prefer to have susan rice. but according to democrats, she's been badly damaged by the benghazi situation and needs to go through the process. they are not sure she could be confirmed. so the floating of john kerry for defense would perhaps clear the way or ease the way for susan rice to get confirmed for state. but it's not clear that it will work. >> andrea mitchell, i could talk to you all night tonight. there's so much going on. thank you very much. >> thank you. >> her show is at 1:00 p.m. eastern here on msnbc. i'm telling you, must-see tv. >>> turns out the election isn't over. stay tuned for that. including the music and everything. that's coming up next. [ male announcer ] sponges take your mark. [ female announcer ] one drop of ultra dawn has twice the everyday grease cleaning ingredients of one drop of the leading non-concentrated brand... to clean 2x more greasy d
john kerry has long, i think, wanted to be secretary of state. and that's not a secret in washington. and he is many people believe superbly qualified. by my reporting, some prefer to have susan rice. but according to democrats, she's been badly damaged by the benghazi situation and needs to go through the process. they are not sure she could be confirmed. so the floating of john kerry for defense would perhaps clear the way or ease the way for susan rice to get confirmed for state. but it's...
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toure, and john thnathan capeha thank you. stay with us. >> he never gave a reason why to vote for mitt romney. barack obama gave at least a reason why to vote for him to his supporters, albeit wrong. governor romney -- >> no, the reason wasn't wrong though. mr. obama said quite clearly, if you vote for me i'm going to give you money. am i wrong, miss schaefer, am i wrong about this? [ woman ] ring. ring. progresso. in what world do potatoes, bacon and cheese add up to 100 calories? your world. ♪ [ whispers ] real bacon... creamy cheese... 100 calories... [ chef ] ma'am [ male announcer ] progresso. you gotta taste this soup. since ameriprise financial was founded back in 1894, they've been committed to putting clients first. helping generations through tough times. good times. never taking a bailout. there when you need them. helping millions of americans over the centuries. the strength of a global financial leader. the heart of a one-to-one relationship. together for your future. ♪ starts with arthritis pain and a choic
toure, and john thnathan capeha thank you. stay with us. >> he never gave a reason why to vote for mitt romney. barack obama gave at least a reason why to vote for him to his supporters, albeit wrong. governor romney -- >> no, the reason wasn't wrong though. mr. obama said quite clearly, if you vote for me i'm going to give you money. am i wrong, miss schaefer, am i wrong about this? [ woman ] ring. ring. progresso. in what world do potatoes, bacon and cheese add up to 100 calories?...
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here is john boehner this weekend. >> 2013 should be the year to begin to solve our debt through tax reform and entitlement reform. together we should avert the fiscal cliff in a manner that ensures 2013 finally is that year. >> no accident, by the way, it was boehner who did the republican response to the president this weekend. the president holds the most leverage in the next two months, directly after the election and before tax rates expire. when the threat of a tax increase on the middle class hangs over the negotiations. republicans would like to try out the negotiations to see the political climate is better for them in the next congress. the big question is how much did the white house learn from the failed debt talk to 2011? will the president bypass leader ship and begin to try to deal directly with the republican senators who have sounded the most open to compromise. >> i think there is a deal. the ying and yang of this is we know there have to be revenues. look, i haven't met a wealthy republican or democrat in tennessee that's not willing 20 contribute more as long as t
here is john boehner this weekend. >> 2013 should be the year to begin to solve our debt through tax reform and entitlement reform. together we should avert the fiscal cliff in a manner that ensures 2013 finally is that year. >> no accident, by the way, it was boehner who did the republican response to the president this weekend. the president holds the most leverage in the next two months, directly after the election and before tax rates expire. when the threat of a tax increase on...
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and in 1996, john deutch quit. for more on general petraeus and how he became indispensable to two presidents, go to nbc.com. >>> this friday, the president will sit down with congressional leaders at the white house. the goal of that meeting, to avoid the so-called fiscal cliff, a $600 billion set of automatic tax hikes and spending cuts that if unanswered could kick the country back into a recession. on "meet the press," both sides debated whether raising revenue by taxing wealthier citizens would help. >> is the bottom line that republicans losing this election means as the president said that they have to give in and allow taxes to go up on wealthier americans? >> the question is how do you do that. and how do you allow taxes to rise at the same time you fix the real problem. and the real problem is uncontrolled entitlement spending and a government that has grown massively. >> we never really get real revenues because people believe in some things like dynamic scoring, sort of a counterintuitive view that if y
and in 1996, john deutch quit. for more on general petraeus and how he became indispensable to two presidents, go to nbc.com. >>> this friday, the president will sit down with congressional leaders at the white house. the goal of that meeting, to avoid the so-called fiscal cliff, a $600 billion set of automatic tax hikes and spending cuts that if unanswered could kick the country back into a recession. on "meet the press," both sides debated whether raising revenue by taxing...
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now general john allen is connected to jill kelley, details ahead. plus a late-night search by the fbi of paula broadwell's home in charlotte. all of this as we face wide-swinging weather patterns that seem to defy anything we've seen before. breaking new s overnight in the scandal that brought down general petraeus. now the man who oversaw general petraeus in the afghanistan war is under investigation himself. general john allen is accused of "inappropriate communications" with jill kelley, the florida woman whose complaints of e-mail harassment started the initial investigation. a senior defense official traveling with panetta says 20,000 to 30,000 pages of epail and other documents from general allen's communications with kelley are under review. the official says general allen disputes engaging in any wrong doing in the matter. the fbi referred the matter to the department of defense for investigation on sunday. early this morning secretary panetta directed that the defense department's inspector general investigate. last night fbi agents went to
now general john allen is connected to jill kelley, details ahead. plus a late-night search by the fbi of paula broadwell's home in charlotte. all of this as we face wide-swinging weather patterns that seem to defy anything we've seen before. breaking new s overnight in the scandal that brought down general petraeus. now the man who oversaw general petraeus in the afghanistan war is under investigation himself. general john allen is accused of "inappropriate communications" with jill...
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this time it is general john allen who took over as commander of the u.s. forces in afghanistan and petraeus became director of the cia. in october, allen was also nominated by the president to be the supreme allied commander in europe, but the white house put that nomination on hold after it found out that allen is currently being investigated by the defense department for sending potentially inappropriate and flirtatious e-mails to jill kelley, the same jill kelley who received questionable e-mails from paula broadwell. the fbi's investigation into those e-mails eventually revealed broadwell's affair with general petraeus which eventually led to petraeus' resignation. remember her fbi friend that started the investigation? turns out he was also the person who called house majority leader eric cantor and told him what he knew. one more character connecting petraeus and allen in this messy web, jill's twin sister natalie, just weeks ago both generals wrote letters in support of natalie in a custody battle over her four-year-old son. "the washington post" is
this time it is general john allen who took over as commander of the u.s. forces in afghanistan and petraeus became director of the cia. in october, allen was also nominated by the president to be the supreme allied commander in europe, but the white house put that nomination on hold after it found out that allen is currently being investigated by the defense department for sending potentially inappropriate and flirtatious e-mails to jill kelley, the same jill kelley who received questionable...
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and if that's the case, then morell was rumored to possibly going into the white house to replace john brennan. there's going to be ripple effects through that security team, and it's also, as you pointed out, coming just a few days before key testimony before the senate and the house on benghazi. so there are always things in play that petraeus was central to, and now you have to -- you have to go to the bench to take care of this stuff. >> all right. greg miller, glad to have you right off the top of the show. thanks so much. >> thank you. >>> we are going to be talking with msnbc military analyst colonel jack jacobs, who personally knows general petraeus and his family. we're going to get his take on the general's resignation a bit later on this hour. here's the question for all of you, cia director petraeus, should he have resigned for having an affair? talk to me on twitter, my handle is @alexwitt. i will read some of your tweets throughout the day. >>> the other big story out of washington this morning, president obama says he's committed to working with congress to avoid the so-
and if that's the case, then morell was rumored to possibly going into the white house to replace john brennan. there's going to be ripple effects through that security team, and it's also, as you pointed out, coming just a few days before key testimony before the senate and the house on benghazi. so there are always things in play that petraeus was central to, and now you have to -- you have to go to the bench to take care of this stuff. >> all right. greg miller, glad to have you right...
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you have seen papa john's take a hit. if they continue down this path, there's going to be organized boycotts to hurt business and bottom line as well. the question is about a $5 to $8 million cost for a company with operating expenses of $1.3 billion. so it's minuscule. he's trying to make a political point. for instance, there's minimum wage requirements. and this is what the obama care is about. if you have 50 employees, you're required to pay for their health care coverage or pay a penalty. papa john's can pay the penalty. but he's making a political point. because he doesn't have to make this decision for another year. the law takes place in 2014. if he's trying to do it right after the election as a try of making a point. >> president obama is meeting with business leaders on wednesday. do you think this is going to come up? this pushback against obama care? >> sure. we got a hint of how this is playing out when john boehner told abc that it's now the law of the land. for some reason, republicans are still invested
you have seen papa john's take a hit. if they continue down this path, there's going to be organized boycotts to hurt business and bottom line as well. the question is about a $5 to $8 million cost for a company with operating expenses of $1.3 billion. so it's minuscule. he's trying to make a political point. for instance, there's minimum wage requirements. and this is what the obama care is about. if you have 50 employees, you're required to pay for their health care coverage or pay a penalty....
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the pentagon is combing through thousands of pages of documents belonging to john allen. he's denied any wrong doing. a u.s. official tells nbc news that the documents could connect general allen to jill kelley. she's the same woman whose original complaint about harassing e-mails set off the initial investigation. e-mails that multiple law enforcement sources tell nbc was traced back to this woman, paula broadwell. she's admitted to an affair with dvp dp. last night fbi agents searched paula broadwell's home, the home she shares with her family. she had given them permission to go into the home. they took out boxes and apparently photo es. joining me now is jim frederick, editor at "time" magazine. i heard people joke about this and all the salacious titles. but at the heart of this are some serious and legitimate conce concerns. the president not making any huge pronouncements, but starting with general allen here, the e-mails were exchanged over a two-year span. his confirmation is being held up. that's a big deal. >> it's a huge deal. the story is changing by the hour
the pentagon is combing through thousands of pages of documents belonging to john allen. he's denied any wrong doing. a u.s. official tells nbc news that the documents could connect general allen to jill kelley. she's the same woman whose original complaint about harassing e-mails set off the initial investigation. e-mails that multiple law enforcement sources tell nbc was traced back to this woman, paula broadwell. she's admitted to an affair with dvp dp. last night fbi agents searched paula...
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and i think john mccain said that very early on. and he was dead-on. it's just a fact. so, i mean, who else is doing this kind of thing with mortars and rpgs? >> some of your senate colleagues are suggesting a joint house senate committee like the iran contra committee, like the 9/11 commission. can this be handled by the senate intelligence committee and the house intelligence committee? >> oh, it certainly could be. we work very well together. the four corners meet, we discuss. i've had no proposal to that. i'd certainly be open to the proposal. you don't want to make it so big that it's a problem, but on the other hand, this has to be bipartisan and it should be bicamer bicameral, i would think. so i'm open to the suggestion. >> and returning, finally, to the resignation of david petraeus, how badly damaged is the cia and our intelligence community by this? >> well, the cia is going to go on. and the cia will recover. this is a professional organization. it's a strong organization. the number two is very good. he will take over and take over quickly. and then, hopefu
and i think john mccain said that very early on. and he was dead-on. it's just a fact. so, i mean, who else is doing this kind of thing with mortars and rpgs? >> some of your senate colleagues are suggesting a joint house senate committee like the iran contra committee, like the 9/11 commission. can this be handled by the senate intelligence committee and the house intelligence committee? >> oh, it certainly could be. we work very well together. the four corners meet, we discuss....
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top informed leaders, david petraeus and john allen. why one woman in tampa is connected to top of the u.s. military brass. >>> congressman chris van holden will join me on the fiscal cliff. >>> and ally sheedy is going to be here, how she's lending her voice to a group left homeless after hurricane sandy. that and more coming up at the top of the hour. into their work, their name on the door, and their heart into their community. small business saturday is a day to show our support. a day to shop at stores owned by our friends and neighbors. and do our part for the businesses that do so much for us. on november 24th, let's get out and shop small. no one says that anymore, mom. [ woman ] raise the roof! ah? raise the roof! [ male announcer ] it's our biggest toy rollback of the year. find hundreds of rollbacks on the season's hottest toys in stores now, from america's gift headquarters, walmart. stop! stop! stop! come back here! humans -- we are beautifully imperfect creatures living in an imperfect world. that's why liberty mutual insu
top informed leaders, david petraeus and john allen. why one woman in tampa is connected to top of the u.s. military brass. >>> congressman chris van holden will join me on the fiscal cliff. >>> and ally sheedy is going to be here, how she's lending her voice to a group left homeless after hurricane sandy. that and more coming up at the top of the hour. into their work, their name on the door, and their heart into their community. small business saturday is a day to show our...
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why has john mccain become this john mccain? he's like the joker in batman. you know, life's been good to me. what happened to that guy? >> i think it's personal peak. i think he never got over 2008. he's got a double standard going on between the two rices, and it's apples and oranges. susan rice had nothing to do with benghazi. condoleezza rice had a lot to do with the war in iraq. and the intelligence there. the comparison is specious on any level. >> why doesn't he ever talk about all the republicans who voted against $300 million that hillary clinton wanted to beef up embassy and consulate security? there are some questions that republicans who opposed that need to answer. that's one of the reasons those people lost their lives. >> it's sad. it's sad to see this deterioration. thank you, ron reagan, and thank you, jonathan alter. you guys were incisive tonight. >>> coming up, there are dog whistles and then there are bull horns, and another republican official is blowing his next. and this is "hardball," the place for politics. so, what hap pens if i'm i
why has john mccain become this john mccain? he's like the joker in batman. you know, life's been good to me. what happened to that guy? >> i think it's personal peak. i think he never got over 2008. he's got a double standard going on between the two rices, and it's apples and oranges. susan rice had nothing to do with benghazi. condoleezza rice had a lot to do with the war in iraq. and the intelligence there. the comparison is specious on any level. >> why doesn't he ever talk...
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i'm joined tonight by john larson of connecticut. also with us this evening is congressman john garamendy of california. there's a lot of news out there. we have a lot to cover. first, congressman larson, about this barn storming tour that is being suggested that the president might do. will this put pressure on lawmakers? would public pressure make a difference at this point? >> well, i think it's important that the president be out there and i think it would only enhance the opportunity for us coming to solutions. when the american public wants to see is a congress working toward solutions that will put them back to work. and ed, you have emphasized this over and over again on your show. job creation equals deficit reduction. so putting -- this is something that everyone can agree on in the congress. they wouldn't even take up the president's bill. let's take up the job creation bill. let's signal to the american public and the the entire world that this nation is going back to work and we know that lowering that unemployment rate
i'm joined tonight by john larson of connecticut. also with us this evening is congressman john garamendy of california. there's a lot of news out there. we have a lot to cover. first, congressman larson, about this barn storming tour that is being suggested that the president might do. will this put pressure on lawmakers? would public pressure make a difference at this point? >> well, i think it's important that the president be out there and i think it would only enhance the opportunity...
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john alter, boris epshteyn, john stanton. are we any less or red and blue america since we first met barack obama in 2004? >> i would say yes. i think particularly on social issues, if you look at what happened with guy marriage, this last week, some of the drug legalization things, obviously the country on social issues is starting to move towards the left, i think. but if you look at the house of representatives, it's still controlled by republicans. and while some of that can be written off as part of the -- >> gerrymandering. >> right. still a lot of that shows that on fiscal issues, we are still a pretty conservative country. and i think we're starting to see sort of the real purple i guess color of the country show through a little bit now. >> are we, boys? barring a few states, it does seem to me that most of the states are pretty well decided before we get to the first tuesday in november. >> which i think is very unfortunate. especially in an election we just saw where the economy is the number one issue over arching
john alter, boris epshteyn, john stanton. are we any less or red and blue america since we first met barack obama in 2004? >> i would say yes. i think particularly on social issues, if you look at what happened with guy marriage, this last week, some of the drug legalization things, obviously the country on social issues is starting to move towards the left, i think. but if you look at the house of representatives, it's still controlled by republicans. and while some of that can be...
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john boehner has the majority but it can't be a majority to make anything happen. >> how different is it than a few years ago? >> it has a few less tea party members and some of the vocal ones but the point is, he needs to be able to -- what kind of speaker would he look like if all he did was produce 40 republicans to make the majority on to a democratic bill? and that doesn't make him look like a leader if it's the democrats that peal off some of his peal in terms of a deal. >> bill, if you're a betting man and how would you bet that this thing plays out. >> the fiscal cliff, we will not go over it. the president has already said sequestration has not happened. the republicans got the message of this election. that's how they are different. it's the same people but then reality has come face-to-face with them. they do not want to be held responsible for a recession. the president never has to pace the voters again. they do. and the fear of god has been struck. >> bill schneider, lynn sweet, stick around. we're going to talk to you later in this hour, if you don't mind. >>> meanwhile
john boehner has the majority but it can't be a majority to make anything happen. >> how different is it than a few years ago? >> it has a few less tea party members and some of the vocal ones but the point is, he needs to be able to -- what kind of speaker would he look like if all he did was produce 40 republicans to make the majority on to a democratic bill? and that doesn't make him look like a leader if it's the democrats that peal off some of his peal in terms of a deal....
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thank you. >>> now to democratic congressman from kentucky, john yarmouth. the other big story taking over the whole lexicon is fiscal cliff for everybody. great to have you here. while i want to talk about that, i want to ask you about the petraeus situation because you serve on the oversight committee and the national security and homeland defense subcommittee. with those responsibilities, what is your reaction to this news and petraeus' resignation? >> well, just listening to roger cressey, i couldn't agree more with anything that's been said about this whole situation than what he just said. i think anybody who tries to grandstand this or politicize it at this point risks making a total fool of themselves. this is a personal situation. there doesn't seem to be any security implications at all. if it had happened to another agency head, it would have been a one-day story at most. so i think we ought to all take a deep breath and certainly we need to make sure that there were no security implications -- or that there was any kind of an issue with coordinat
thank you. >>> now to democratic congressman from kentucky, john yarmouth. the other big story taking over the whole lexicon is fiscal cliff for everybody. great to have you here. while i want to talk about that, i want to ask you about the petraeus situation because you serve on the oversight committee and the national security and homeland defense subcommittee. with those responsibilities, what is your reaction to this news and petraeus' resignation? >> well, just listening to...
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john, is she right? >> no, i think that's kind of silly, actually. what that sounds too much like is, let's become democrats. i think the truth of the matter is as a party, what we have to do are two things. first of all, sharpen our message. right now, the branding is too much that we're just the people who want to give tax breaks and everything will be all right. blue-collar america does not feel that we understand their lives. they don't understand if we're fighting for them every day and if we're going to be out there promoting policies that will help their life. the second thing we have to understand is that we don't understand the process as well as seshd. we spent well over $1 billion collectively on republican candidates and did a poor job as a result, even spending all that money -- >> michael barone says part of the problem, while the tea party's produced talent candidates, they're also produced wackos, weirdos and witches. >> the tea partiers say, let's go back to what the founders of this country found this country on, freedom, limited go
john, is she right? >> no, i think that's kind of silly, actually. what that sounds too much like is, let's become democrats. i think the truth of the matter is as a party, what we have to do are two things. first of all, sharpen our message. right now, the branding is too much that we're just the people who want to give tax breaks and everything will be all right. blue-collar america does not feel that we understand their lives. they don't understand if we're fighting for them every day...
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i want to say, tamron, that it was house speaker john boehner's birthday. president obama gave him a bottle of wine. >> kristen, you spoimed it. we were going to show that later. rats. really, kristen welker? >> caller: so, sorry. >> i have something else to ask you about. i'm just giving you grief. the civic meeting is taking place, the reverend al, the national action network, and he's meeting with civic leaders. is he prepares some on the letter r left for concessions or things they may not like that comes out of these negotiations? >> reporter: well, i think it's both. i think it's that he's trying to prepare some on the left for concessions. he's trying to build up really his strength to be able to put pressure on republicans to come to the table with him over taxes. president obama meeting with with union leaders early this week, also business leaders, so he's really trying to form a broad consensus, i think, to put pressure on republicans and democrats to get something done, to actually get something accomplished before that january 1st deadline. tam
i want to say, tamron, that it was house speaker john boehner's birthday. president obama gave him a bottle of wine. >> kristen, you spoimed it. we were going to show that later. rats. really, kristen welker? >> caller: so, sorry. >> i have something else to ask you about. i'm just giving you grief. the civic meeting is taking place, the reverend al, the national action network, and he's meeting with civic leaders. is he prepares some on the letter r left for concessions or...
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and how they did it, but if you had said to me three weeks ago mitt romney would get fewer votes than john mccain, and it looks like he'll be 2 million fewer, i would have been dumbfounded. >> michael, thanks for joining us. we have had a good time arguing and discussing things, occasionally agreeing on things but often not. let me ask you about that republican world view. i wonder what color the sky is. how did they see this election the way rasmussen pollsters would see it, basically a romney romp? how did they get it so wrong? >> i think there was a feeding into a mythology that somehow the country would categorically reject the president because we had, that the country would somehow say to itself, you know, we can't live with this new land of big government health care, big government spending, et cetera, because we can't. and that's fine. the problem was in articulating to the american people why we can't live with those things, why those things are bad, and instead, as you have noted many times on this program, we got waylaid by conversations about women's bodies and abortion and th
and how they did it, but if you had said to me three weeks ago mitt romney would get fewer votes than john mccain, and it looks like he'll be 2 million fewer, i would have been dumbfounded. >> michael, thanks for joining us. we have had a good time arguing and discussing things, occasionally agreeing on things but often not. let me ask you about that republican world view. i wonder what color the sky is. how did they see this election the way rasmussen pollsters would see it, basically a...
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could john boehner face another revolt? >>> first, we go back to florida, ground zero for head counts and election nights with no winners, again? this is msnbc. ♪ [ male announcer ] the way it moves. the way it cleans. everything about the oral-b power brush is simply revolutionary. oral-b power brushes oscillate, rotate and even pulsate to gently loosen and break up that sticky plaque with more brush movements than manual brushes and even up to 50% more than leading sonic technology brushes for a superior clean. oral-b power brushes. go to oralb.com for the latest offers. >>> from his ranch in crawford, texas, governor bush voiced his objections to a third recount of ballots in florida. >> we've had one count and then we had another count. and fortunately, we won both counts. >> by going to court, bush is hoping to insure his lead in florida unofficially a 327-vote marnellen doesn't change in tallahassee today, former secretary of state, james baker, repeated his argument that hand-counting is subjective and unreliable a
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john cornyn has been promoted to replace retiring senator conless. and elected wednesday as vice chair of the republican conference, he's also a member of the senate committee. senator, good morning. >> good morning. >> let me ask you, around the leadership front, you've been around this house a long time. and you around the republicans when they got ais shellacking i 2006. should leadership have taken on more water, if you will? should there be fresher faces brought in to respond to what was a messaging campaign that didn't work? >> well, i think most of our leadership is relatively new. i've been in the leadership a year. the two job above me have only held those junes for a year. i don't know if that would have the same impact. i think a lot of what happened this cycle and last cycle was so unprecedented in the way that people are reacting to outside assistance. and other things, that i'm not sure that would have had a lot of political impact, no matter what we did. but i do clearly think we need to communicate better. we need to have a message th
john cornyn has been promoted to replace retiring senator conless. and elected wednesday as vice chair of the republican conference, he's also a member of the senate committee. senator, good morning. >> good morning. >> let me ask you, around the leadership front, you've been around this house a long time. and you around the republicans when they got ais shellacking i 2006. should leadership have taken on more water, if you will? should there be fresher faces brought in to respond...
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look, while they won't say publicly, they all said the political reality is that john boehner is not in the same position to negotiate with the president that he was before. he lost seats. the president won a second term, and the central argument in this campaign was exactly this issue. so they are sort of negotiating with themselves a bit in the public eye. when it comes to sitting down across the table with the president, they will have to get down to brass tacks in a way they didn't before. >> karen finney and jonathan capehart, thank you for joining me tonight. >> thank you, lawrence. >> coming up, breaking news tonight in the investigation of david petraeus, the fbi conducted a search of the home of paula broadwell. we'll have all the breaking news, developments in that case, coming up. ♪ ♪ hi dad. many years from now, when the subaru is theirs... hey. you missed a spot. ...i'll look back on this day and laugh. love. it's what makes a subaru, a subaru. governor of getting it done. you know how to dance... with a deadline. and you...rent from national. because only national l
look, while they won't say publicly, they all said the political reality is that john boehner is not in the same position to negotiate with the president that he was before. he lost seats. the president won a second term, and the central argument in this campaign was exactly this issue. so they are sort of negotiating with themselves a bit in the public eye. when it comes to sitting down across the table with the president, they will have to get down to brass tacks in a way they didn't before....
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general john allen is the top u.s. commander in afghanistan. officials are investigating him for, quote, inappropriate communication with jill kel kelley. she's the woman that got the petraeus investigation started. the pentagon is looking at more than 20,000 pages of documents and e-mails between kelley and general allen. 20,000. officials tell the ap that some of the material was, quote, flirtatious. general allen denies having an affair with kelley, who we know was also friends with general petraeus. joining me now is michael isikoff, national investigative correspondent for nbc news. he's been breaking some of the big details on this case over the last few days. michael, first, thanks for being here tonight. >> thank you. good to be with you. >> now, let me ask, general allen is now under investigation for his relationship with jill kelley. what can you tell us about the relationship and what can you tell us about miss kelley. >> we should say we don't know for sure. as you pointed out, the e-mails, these voluminous -- apparently voluminous
general john allen is the top u.s. commander in afghanistan. officials are investigating him for, quote, inappropriate communication with jill kel kelley. she's the woman that got the petraeus investigation started. the pentagon is looking at more than 20,000 pages of documents and e-mails between kelley and general allen. 20,000. officials tell the ap that some of the material was, quote, flirtatious. general allen denies having an affair with kelley, who we know was also friends with general...
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look, while they won't say publicly, they all said the political reality is that john boehner is not in the same position to negotiate with the president that he was before. he lost seats. the president won a second term, and the central argument in this campaign was exactly this issue. so they are sort of negotiating with themselves a bit in the public eye. when it comes to sitting down across the table with the president, they will have to get down to brass tacks in a way they didn't before. >> karen finney and jonathan capehart, thank you for joining me tonight. >> thank you, lawrence. >> coming up, breaking news tonight in the investigation of david petraeus, the fbi conducted a search of the home of paula broadwell. we'll have all the breaking news, developments in that case, coming up. now,ere's one that will ke you feel alive. meet the five-passenger ford c-max hybrid. c-max says ha. c-max says wheeee. which is what you get, don't you see? cause c-max has lots more horsepower than prius v, a hybrid that c-max also bests in mpg. say hi to the all-new 47 combined mpg c-max hybri
look, while they won't say publicly, they all said the political reality is that john boehner is not in the same position to negotiate with the president that he was before. he lost seats. the president won a second term, and the central argument in this campaign was exactly this issue. so they are sort of negotiating with themselves a bit in the public eye. when it comes to sitting down across the table with the president, they will have to get down to brass tacks in a way they didn't before....
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joining me now is jonathan allen. >> the other john allen. >> the other john allen. all we're missing now is for someone to wake up from a coma in a hospital and reveal they were the rightful commander of the troops. i mean the thing, this has spiraled and seemingly almost out of control. the reality, of course, is that there are 68,000 troops in afghanistan, we have military conflict in the middle east, what does this say and do to the leadership on the defense side? >> look, unless you believe that these are the only men that could carry out these jobs well, then the defense infrastructure and the national security infrastructure of the united states should be relatively unaffected by this. there should be people that can come into those jobs and do those jobs well. if you believe these are the only men that can do those jobs to protect our country in the case of david petraeus, having him resign from the cia would have been a terrible thing and the president should have stopped him from doing it. in the case of general allen, stopping his promotion would be a terr
joining me now is jonathan allen. >> the other john allen. >> the other john allen. all we're missing now is for someone to wake up from a coma in a hospital and reveal they were the rightful commander of the troops. i mean the thing, this has spiraled and seemingly almost out of control. the reality, of course, is that there are 68,000 troops in afghanistan, we have military conflict in the middle east, what does this say and do to the leadership on the defense side? >> look,...